Join host Marco Bolder as he delves into the wild world of human sexuality with South African CEO-turned-sexuality coach and author of ‘JUMP! An Epic Travel and Soul Adventure,’ Lenerd Louw. From traversing 5 continents and 35 countries to uncovering ancient sexual rituals and modern insights, Lenerd brings a fusion of masculine wisdom and provocative exploration. Tune in to unlock the secrets of spirituality and sexuality in this bold, unfiltered journey that few experience.
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this is the boulder Zone the fusion of
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your host Mark Marco Boulder
my guest today is Leonard Lowe a CEO who
left his corporate gig in Cape Town
South Africa after a major business
shift back in 2013.
he embarked on a five-year very personal
journey of self-discovery he explored
five continents in 35 countries where he
dove into the different aspects of
spirituality sexuality and personal
growth through various initiations and
workshops
he then authored jump an epic soul and
sex Adventure back in 2019 he won the
literary Titan silver award after it
climbed to the number two spot on
Amazon’s spiritual religious and travel
category in 2020.
Leonard’s passions lies in conscious
business practices and unashamedly
embracing sexuality
his vision is a world where people can
confidently integrate both masculine and
feminine aspects regardless of gender
for a deeper dive into his
transformative Journey here he is
Leonard Lowe Leonard how’s it
uh awesome cool Walker it’s so great
talking to you man all good thank you
for coming on the show buddy let’s begin
before your big Trek around the world
what was your life like as a CEO in Cape
Town and what caused you to give it up
yes this was in 2009 I was running an
insurance company in uh in South Africa
up until then I really enjoyed what I
was doing and then at a point uh around
about 2009 I just had this you know it’s
so so difficult to explain but it was
just this internal shift that happened
to me where I just started to realize
there’s something else I want to do with
my life
I started getting a bit bored with the
work and uh I just felt there was
something new out there
and uh it didn’t make any sense uh Marco
so I tried to distract myself from that
life
yeah with a lot of
drugs sex and jacuzzis that took me four
years of that you know just to try to
distract myself from that in according
to to shift into into something else
and then after after about four or five
years of that
I surrendered and I resigned as CEO and
and also yeah it was the voice of the
inner shift just told me it’s time to to
clear out or clear out all of the old
and allow for the for the new to come
into my life so that’s a very brief
short summary of that time in South
Africa between you know 2009 and
2013. I mentioned in the onset five
continents 35 countries did you have a
major goal in mind or or what inspired
you to make this pilgrimage
uh yeah no girl at all just massive
confusion I thought I’ll go and start my
journey go out there and take a few
months off and maybe go up to New York
and look at new businesses and see
whether there’s something else that
interests me and then this thing totally
changed I thought it was this maybe just
go out and take some time out and and
the journey totally changed it just
became this journey of of Awakening this
journey of of learning I spent a year in
South America in 2014 the first year but
yeah then it just rolled out into 35
countries over five years yeah
aha moment in your journey or you
started to find these answers that you
were looking for
so what so what I had definitely in Cape
Town is that you know as I mentioned
before I had the four years of really
trying to distract myself from this
inner calling to to expand into
something different into my life and
that was still still in you know the CEO
of insurance company and one day in 2012
I was walking on the beach and and I was
on this beautiful setting you know
beautiful you know turquoise water and
white sand and Table Mountain behind you
it’s this beautiful setting but I
couldn’t see the beauty in it and after
five minutes I went I can’t see the
beauty man and I went home called some
people had a party but but on that walk
I I realized uh I’m in big trouble and I
realized I was always always loved
nature I always laughed being in
elements and the beauty of this planet
and how pretty I couldn’t see it I just
realized that I’m so disconnected from
nature I’m so disconnected from myself
um and that then led to
uh
you know me going overseas and starting
this journey going to South America
without knowing what I’m jumping into it
was very much a jump into the unknown I
had absolutely no idea but then in South
America I got sick with parasites and
that led me to and I tried to treat that
to us antibiotics and stuff like that
and I very quickly found out you know
antibiotics don’t kill parasites but
that led me to a shamanic guy that led
me to energy healing to emotional
release and that started a whole process
of meeting people and that started the
inner journey and that then developed so
that then was was the aha moment when I
was there in Guatemala in a beautiful
Village called San Marcos and I just
realized that’s where it really dropped
in and I then just opened up to to
everything else I started realizing you
know before I was like
you know
I only believed that what I could touch
and then the energy for me was a woo-woo
thing and when I was there I really
tapped into that and you know doing some
workshops and and I just really opened
up to it it was really just opening up
and questioning everything
and allow all of the new to come in and
that that didn’t just float from there
these workshops that you attended were
they locally based what were those about
yeah that’s right and so in Guatemala
it’s basically when I was trying to get
rid of my parasites uh I made the crazy
guy and he told me about uh another lady
that living around the corner and she
told me about workshops that are
happening around the world so yeah all
of it was residential none of it was
online it was all residential workshops
that I would go to in different
countries and I was just following you
know what was happening wherever and it
was all over the world India also and
yeah so it’s residential and yeah it was
just uh you know following the
breadcrumb software the next learning
was
these sound like amazing experiences
especially this one you outlined there
in in Hawaii I’m interested in hearing
about how you’re folding them into a
business mindset that was one of the
things that you promote on your web it
is being able to take this experience
what they can learn from you what people
can learn from you and applying it to
different Avenues to include business
can you explain that a little bit
yeah yeah it’s it’s such a big part you
know now if you start a business and if
you create businesses and you create
projects within businesses
um
often it’s kind of done a little bit
unconsciously where you’re just like a
Year’s idea and you go with it
um so what I really believe where we’re
moving into we’re moving into a world
where things are created from the heart
space and from a love space
um and you know this is not just you
know hippie talk or who who talk I think
the the scientific and the science is
coming very closely connected to this
now is that everything is made of energy
and if you create something with a
specific kind of energy uh when you
create it afterwards it will consist of
that energy and your energy is to
exploit and and you know as opposed to
maybe what what value and what greater
can I bring to the world and it can be
profitable nothing wrong with that but
does it come from a collaboration point
or exploitation point of view so yes I
think that is super critical
um and it’s not just critical for for
it’s good for the is good for Humanity
to create businesses from hard space
it’s also from a business Point very
important because if it comes from that
energy then it is where we’re all moving
towards it it consists of that higher
energy and we now see around the world
that these old style businesses that are
based on exploitation are falling apart
think it’s quite visible that this the
structures and both um in business and
even in in countries and politics and
stuff
um that old school thing is falling
apart
is making way for the for the new higher
vibration so your chance of succeeding
is going to be so much better if you
build it from the heart than if you
don’t
one thing that I read that I thought was
really intriguing was the sexual nature
of what you teach and what you show
people we know that a strong sexual
relationship is crucial
what do you teach beyond what is out
there now that is different from what
they can get out of an average book to
improve relationships and in personal
sexuality
oh yo beautiful Marco yeah so maybe I
can start with maybe a little bit from
my story and that is that yeah I was you
know you probably heard this the term
multiogasmic man basically that happened
to me 20 years ago already and I was
already then in business where I was
starting to
have orgasms in my body without
ejaculating and there was no one to talk
to in in those days you know like it’s
not in business in a boardroom you’re
talking about ejaculation you know it
doesn’t go and you know men don’t really
talk to each other about sexuality in
any event so there was no one to talk to
about any of these but when I was on my
journey around the world I came across
Tantra and taoism and and I then
realized that this has been a practice
this is a practice that has been in
place for two three thousand years you
know the taoists and the tantrics in um
in India and in China
so I suppose what I’m what I’m bringing
Just One of the aspects what I’m
bringing to the world is exactly that
part and it’s it’s not new because it’s
thousands of years old it’s just that it
very few men and very few women know
about it many very few people know that
orgasm and ejaculation are two different
things and you know once you start
realizing that and you start practicing
it’s a full-on game changer it changes
so many things not just in your in your
sexuality in the way you make love but
also in your in your life there’s so
many benefits to that and sure we can
talk for for ages about it well I really
want to to bring that in awareness of
people because I don’t know I think two
or three or five percent of the of the
population knows about this and I want
to in the next five years
but at least half the planet to know
about this and you know whether they
practice it or not now I call it the
practice of ejaculation choice you may
have heard about it on on internet semen
retention
those are one of the aspects you know
that that’s quite important but then
it’s also broader and deeper because in
relationships it’s
it’s bringing bringing that forward but
specifically you know
ejaculation toys it allows you to laugh
for so much longer so it means it’s not
just that you have and your partner have
so much more orgasms and have so much
more fun and pleasure running through
her body and her body and your body but
it also means now you’re instead of
having five minutes together there
you’ve got an hour together we look into
each other’s eyes and you experience it
it’s other you know it just it takes the
relationship to just another level
I know that you outlined this in your
workshops in your book in in much
greater detail but if you could give us
a high level look at what that
experience is that you captured this
multi-orgasmic experience
yes that’s basically you know so so in
essence most guys ejaculate you know
every day or a few times a day or every
second day either with my love making or
with with self-pleasuring or
masturbation
and in essence what it what it means is
it it
you know you go into what they call
ejaculation hangover period you know
you’ve got two three hundred million
sperm cells leaving your body with each
ejaculation and that really exhausts you
it really makes you tired
and then the lovemaking experiences
is also there relatively short because
the moment you ejaculate you know that’s
the end of the game you know you as a
man you know you kind of lose a little
bit of interest and you brawl around to
have a have a good sleep and that’s
perfectly fine because you’ve so much
energy has left your body so how it
would look differently then is that you
can get to the point of close to
ejaculation and rather than that energy
spilling out from your groin area you
can now breathe it up into your body
um and it it’s actually very simple and
super simple and easy it’s just putting
the intention there of spreading it
through your body breathing it up to
your heart into your head and then it
stops you from ejaculating because the
energy is now spread throughout your
body it’s not just focus on your on your
groin area and that means you can make
love for a longer period and you know as
men already was in 36 30 seconds you
know we have a 60 seconds we have a
erection enough for women to get into
the multi-orgasmic State you know it
takes them 15-20 minutes even to warm up
you know just to warm up takes them
15-20 minutes generally speaking you
know and then only after that do they
get into orgasmic state so so therefore
laugh making you know it’s shorter than
20 minutes
it’s it’s so different than love making
of of longer than that and even up to an
hour where you can really spend this
time together with deep connection look
into each other’s eyes experience the
the Deep you know almost spiritual
experience of love making that comes
with that thing
I can imagine that if a man or a couple
comes to you with intimacy issues and
you teach the man
these techniques what he needs to do how
that could
in itself just through him a change the
whole sexual dynamic in his household
but let’s say the female is having
issues with orgasm or intimacy can she
come to you and talk to you about that
and can you give her some insight on how
to make that better
yes and also just also with the main
just a point on that marker with the men
also it’s it’s so important for that
they then also talk to their partner so
when they do let’s say this practice of
ejaculation choices rather than opting
with they their partners are very much
it’s not a solo practice they they do it
together with their partner if they
don’t have a partner it’s fine they can
still practice it you know with their
self-pleasuring masturbation and so on
you know they can still practice all of
that but yeah so differently with
couples and with with women you know
also I mean with them because I’m a man
it becomes you know very natural to talk
about some of the things with men and it
can relate uh but yeah nervous women
also
that’s good to know and folks you
definitely want to get his book because
he goes into greater detail in how to do
that moving back to your journey in
getting through all of this you have had
to have some real highs and lows can you
tell me first of all what was your most
ex amazing experience on the entire trip
on the entire Journey
that stays with you today
wow that is a really good question Marco
um sure there were many but I’ll I’ll
just pop in talk about what this is what
has just popped into my mind now
and that was
in one of these six days residential
experiences in
um I think this was in Australia yes it
was in Australia I did a spiritual
sexual shamanics level two kind of six
day Journey there and in one of the days
we did a ritual
um dropping into into your your feminine
energies uh you have a brother day the
day before and the day after that we had
a uh a sister day you know and this is
men and women so
um day before the you know everyone
going through dropping to their
masculine energies you know so whether
you’re born in a man or in a woman body
we all have masculine and feminine
energies in inside us uh yin and yang
all of that
um and yeah it’s all cool to know that
in your mind but it was fascinating we
did this ritual there in
in Australia and
close to Baron Bay and I just dropped
into my deep feminine energy and my dark
feminine energy and it was fascinating
it was like a really profound experience
and it is it’s so difficult to put this
in words because this is very much an
embodiment experience but afterwards
it was in God’s break and I went to walk
in the forest there and I could just
feel this crazy wild woman Inside Me and
now I’m a man I’m a South African man
you know which is South African you know
men and Away quite you know traditional
and very masculine but uh I also I could
just encounter my inner feminine and not
just the what they call the light
feminine but the dark feminine now I’ve
always known that my that my masculine
and a warrior dark dark masculine is
quite I mean I went to the Army in South
Africa you know it’s a pretty rough
Place Africa and South Africa so I
always knew my my warrior spiritus as a
man but I never knew about my crazy
fierce dark feminine energy so I mean
man this is this is quite difficult
concept to put through in words in about
I hope I’ve done it justice I can just I
can just um
that was a profound experience I just
felt it and I felt like this is quite
vicious I could I could I could
understand that you know for love that
this dark feminine would chop ahead off
for the sake of love uh yeah that was
quite profound that is fascinating
the dark feminine side sounds like it
could be almost as brutal as the dark
masculine side would you agree
oh for sure definitely Marco and in some
ways
even more so
um in a strange way you know and it
comes from and people often understand
dog misunderstand dark if this if you
say dark they often think evil or bad or
so this is this is not in the in that
context this is in a context where you
know like like a mother you know what if
if her kids are being threatened you
know and for self-defense she’s going to
kill that person that’s that’s gonna you
know to save the kids
um so it comes from that space you know
just for you know for people out there
that might confuse the dark part to to
it it comes from that space and that is
pretty pretty Fierce yeah for sure are
you saying that there are different
triggers one that would trigger the dark
masculine as opposed to one that would
trigger the dark feminine
that’s a really good question
um
I don’t think so potentially could or
potentially could be but I think what is
important often is that I think but the
important point is that once you can
actually feel these energies you can
actually
also bring them up so it’s one part
where you just get triggered and you act
on it another part where you feel like
now I have to drop into this energy
um to do whatever I need to do
um so I think I think that I think that
is the part is that actually if you
really start embodying it and you’re
feeling it then you know then I think
that’s that’s super cool I mean I’ll for
example I often use with the guys I
often talk to them you know to drop into
your feminine energies and then I just
talk don’t talk specifically necessarily
dark or light I just talk your feminine
energy as a man you know can you feel
your effeminine energies and I often say
to them and the guys go they get a
little bit confused you know because
they’re like oh wow man this is bit
weird but and I don’t understand why but
a big big benefit of that is for example
uh when you make love to a woman she’s
feminine if you know you’re only in a
feminine well then you you’re blav
making with her comes from another place
you’re much more in tune in intuition
wise so you can feel her feminine better
so when you make love and you know your
own inner feminine and you roll around
with her you actually know what’s the
next thing to do you know in the
lovemaking process
um
you know it’s as opposed to often the
guys ask okay why do I have to buy a
good lover that’s what I do you know
what’s Point give me the manual from
point A B C and D you know what what
points the three what points did buttons
to press and there’s actually so much so
much more
um so that’s an example of of how this
this could really help you in your life
today there are big masculine movements
magtow men going their own way red pill
are two big examples that are really
dominating the masculine mindset in in
what a masculine man should be
how do you square what you teach against
these new
fairly new trendy techniques and books
that are out there now
so mine is very much I keep mine
relatively simple and I don’t know
necessarily or the detail of of those
companies organizations you know in in
the states as such but um mine is very
simple and straightforward you know so I
I’m I’m very passionate about art
centered and truthful masculinity and
Unapologetic masculinity so from where I
come from is that you know I see Marco
especially the young guys coming into
this world you know almost
almost
almost apologetic of being a man you
know so what I want to bring there is
the proud of being a man you know bring
that proud of masculinity back but the
hearts hit centered masculinity you know
not uh not the old school patriarchy
Macho masculinity
um which was some often often sometimes
unhealthy so the masculinity where you
are wow it’s good to be a man and it’s
and the word masculine is a beautiful
word you know sometimes it’s it’s almost
seen as a bit of a dirty word and I
think that’s where maybe where some
organizations are and I can’t talk
because I don’t know the detail of the
of what you’ve what you’ve mentioned but
I know there are some that maybe go
overboard but the guys go totally
overboard
um as in the reaction
um but I think what we there are so many
women out there that support what what I
do and what you do
um in terms of
for for men to really be proud of their
masculine part yes they drop into their
hearts but not to lose their masculine
part yes to drop into their feminine
energies and to feel themselves and
their emotions but I meant still to be a
man and you know still to be in the
masculine energy and I often have women
saying if I could be as director saying
man
um I I just I want my I want my man
still to be able to to [ __ ] me properly
yes I want him to be in his heart but I
don’t want also to be a over I want him
to be integrated with both I don’t want
him to be over feminist I want to be in
these emotions but I also want him to to
be a man and to be able to to [ __ ] me
properly you know so I don’t know how
that relate necessarily to the
organizations you talk about but that’s
very much where I come from
that is the major issue that we are
facing here in the states
the major push in feminism in that it is
almost denying the inherent masculinity
that we are born with men are almost
ashamed now to feel that masculinity to
act upon them for fear of being
chastised or being critical or be called
sexist or being blamed for the over
masculization of the past that sort of
thing so they’re hesitant and those are
those younger guys that you’re talking
about so how would you where the
femininity aspect against what you do
yo that’s crazy Marco like you know what
you just mentioned is absolutely crazy
and now so I feel very strongly to be
out there for men and especially for the
younger guys you know to say to them hey
man do your inner work sort your own
inner stuff out that’s super important
to you know to raise your awareness
raise your Consciousness do your inner
work but never never apologize to be a
man and never apologize for your
masculinity beautiful aspects of who you
are because that’s what women want women
that are really done their work and also
done the Deep inner Journey do not want
to emasculate men why the [ __ ] would I
want to do that because that would be
terrible for them for them to be in a
space where they have emasculated man
there’s absolutely no sense in that so
women that are really done their work
they want masculine mean I mean I come
across a lot of women that I’ve done
their work they work in uh in
spirituality and sexuality and and they
you know I’m doing a Tokyo neon in in
Geneva and it’s a beautiful woman that
that the woman is organizing it and she
says man we want our men we want to
celebrate and adore that strong
masculine energy
yeah so I mean I often say to the young
guys I’ll give you an example you know
some of the guys say well I dance with a
woman and then I get an erection then I
feel super embarrassed and I try to do I
did and I said no
nonsense you know
[ __ ] that [ __ ] if I can be so Direct
you you never you never want to put your
erection down I mean if it’s all in
consent and you I mean not and you have
the directions celebrate that direction
and that is actually a beautiful
compliment to the women and most women
can take it well if they have done their
work and they triggered uh an elsely
well take that as a beautiful beautiful
compliment now if you as a man as a
young man now trying to hide your
erection and try to stop it I mean
that’s terrible because now you’re
stopping your sexual energy flowing in
you know maybe a few years down the line
you’re still going to have a problem
having an erection so if you have an
erection you never want to stop that you
want to like celebrate that and enjoy
that
so yeah that’s a strong message for me
to the young guys and that’s something
that’s been a problem in society for for
decades that men think they’re not as
viral and they challenge they question
their sexual proudness because they do
get an erection too soon and it’s sad
that Society made that a lot of jokes
I think that these men especially the
younger men as as you’ve dressed really
need some solid Direction on exploring
and actually capturing their masculinity
and being proud of it it’s very
difficult nowadays with the pressures
that these younger men have in in
expressing that like I said before in
light of those social pressures that
these young men are are facing Leonard
what would you say to them to overcome
that and basically say [ __ ] it you know
[ __ ] you this is who I am this is how
I’m going to express myself I’m not
hurting anyone I’m actually becoming a
better person and trying to develop a
stronger relationship with whoever that
may be what would you say to those guys
exactly to do exactly that to drop into
their own masculine energy and be proud
of it and be secure of it and then that
often often means sitting in men’s
circles and talking to guys like you and
like me and a lot of other guys out
there that give them that confidence and
also talking to women a lot of my women
friends that says exactly the same thing
that’s what we need you know we need
strong masculine men in this world but
strong masculine meant that under hearts
um and that’s super powerful so I’m
saying to those guys drop into your
heart stay in your heart and I I mean I
have to understand what I mean if I say
that whatever you know in other words
feel the love in your heart you know so
come from a place of love and if you
know you’ve got we all got triggers we
all got wounds do some inner work you
know do some workshops do some stuff do
some emotional work on yourself because
we come in this planet with that having
to do that you know it’s just just the
reality of where we are in our Evolution
and our Consciousness so do that inner
work but from that space then very much
honor your masculine energy honor your
erection honor your viral energy
so that’s beautiful you know there’s
nothing wrong with that it’s amazing
I’ll give you an example you know we
often often often use this example is
that
if you see a beautiful woman you know
out there and if you look at us right in
the eyes and you just with our
generation and you say wow and with your
masculine energy you give up compliment
about your beautiful I tell you now 99
out of 100 women will love that or 90
out of 100 the 10 or so the minorities
that that wouldn’t are those that have
really have a lot of inner work that
they still need to do
so if you come from an open-heartedness
space with adoration and an Adoration of
the of the outer feminine I promise you
it will be received with a good way I
think where the problem is and that’s
where a little bit I think where things
like porn and stuff like that can change
that energy and I have seen it with
myself also you know often we walk and
then you see a beautiful woman but
you’re not you don’t have the courage to
look straight in the eye you wait for
her to walk past and then you look at
her and I think that’s the kind of
energy that is probably not so so good
that’s what we’re all gonna need to to
work on I think that’s the energy that
that woman wouldn’t enjoy
um but I’m giving that example to give
you the other example of like for the
guys out there to try that actually with
from a hard space look at a woman and
say that to her and see what’s the
reaction you know and they let us know
let us know what what you find but I my
experience as being is the the woman
just starts glowing and they love it
because it comes they can see it comes
from a beautiful authentic open space
and that’s beautiful there’s nothing
nothing wrong with that I think you’re
spot on Leonard with that the problem
that I’ve experienced and I’m sure
you’ve heard this as well is as I
mentioned before the influence of the
mainstream media the poor influence of
social media that is saying everything
to the contrary they’re pushing forward
that 10 of women that you describe
rather than the 90 percent the way you
described and I’ve seen that too most
women want a strong passionate loving
masculine man that’s going to chase them
around the couch once in a while
but they a lot of these women don’t have
that voice they’re not allowed to have
that voice especially on media because
it’s not
what the powers that be want at least
this country to know and I think it’s
important to have voices like yours out
there that encourage men this is not the
case that is a small percentage of
females that you’re seeing on these
YouTube channels that you know I’m a 10
and she’s a 10 and she’s a 10 we’re all
tens but all you guys are fives
this is not what is happening out there
in the real world and that’s the type of
message that we’ve got to get pushed out
to these men so they can build their
self-confidence again and not be
influenced that they need to have
exposure from men who get it who’ve
walked the path
yes 100 marker and I almost want to say
you know just to add to what you’re
saying there is that remember that
there’s often the minority that screams
the loudest you know so it’s like we
talk about this I believe I don’t know
what the percentage of two or five or
ten I don’t know what it is but I really
believe it’s a minority of women for the
guys out there to see the perspective
you know and everything is in social
media and it is like feels like 80
percent just no it isn’t 80 it is more
like eight
um because a lot of other women are are
not saying that and then I also know a
lot of women in my space this in in you
know South Africa Europe I don’t know
America that well but in a spirituality
sexuality space that are very vocal when
there’s a clip I did a few days ago was
uh a lady in in Switzerland that’s
inviting me to go and speak to a group
of men there uh do a workshop for a day
with men there and she was very vocal
about it she was expressed it even more
directly uh than than I did about that
so I’ll say you really want that you
know that type of masculine energy and
and just just a point you also make me
think about we could talk about
relationships earlier is that
the polarity in relationships and that’s
why women don’t want it you’re not
generally speaking women why would you
know for a relationship to work within a
man and a woman you know let’s just talk
men and women for now you know they need
to be polarity they need to be a
feminine and a masculine polarity and
yes it can be interplayed and you can
play different roles at different times
but broadly speaking there must be
polarity so if a woman is here and this
man and other side is not masculine
enough then it’s not enough polarity and
the relationship can’t work so therefore
women want guys that can be strong and
they’re masculine masculinity otherwise
their relationship is not going to be
good
yes we were put on this Earth with those
masculine and
femininity attributes for a reason
and to deny those or to repress those or
to over extend those are all serious
issues and not just impacts
relationships but impacts everyone
around you your your work Associates
your pets everything so exactly Leonard
let’s get into your book a little bit
this discussion fascinating and we could
probably end up making this a four-hour
show I maybe we do a part two but as far
as your book is concerned you have a
book that you put out called jump the
epic soul and sex Adventure
what can people expect when they read it
and what have you seen people that have
read it what have you seen them get out
of it so far
Marco let’s start with the last point
I’m I’m continuously surprised of people
telling me that their lives have been
changed by this book and and I’m not
exaggerating I
so the book itself is a memoir it’s
about the last probably like 10 years
the end of my life 10 15 years of my
life and it goes through the Journey of
this learning and Awakening
and it talks about it but in a very
light easy to read way you know I’m a
even in business days I talked I’m a
simple straightforward guy and I talk
plain language and the book is also very
much written in that in that way and it
talks about that with period in it it’s
a memoir so it explains what happens and
it goes through the workshops and the
things that that happened and the effect
it had on me
but in the book is also then because of
that a lot of pointers you know so as
you read the book you will see the
journey and the story but in that story
is a lot of pointers of different things
that one can do so what I find is that
people seem to see certain things
certain people see certain things that
they go wow and they get aha moments and
then they can dive deeper into that you
know the book is you know
that’s only you of what 250 Pages or so
it’s a five-year journey I could have
written a book 10 times 10 10 volumes of
that book you know it could also edited
down a bit so it’s got a very dense the
information is very dense
but yeah now it seemed to be quite a
good journey for people that are
starting to answer ask questions uh
about life about themselves about
the world around him seems to be quite a
book for them then to expand and explore
more
and this is the book that’s not just
focused on men women can purchase this
book and get just as much out of it is
that correct oh definitely no definitely
I mean I never saw this thing with men
like working with men as that’s
happening it it’s just recently that
some people have asked me and I can I do
these 21 Day online Journeys with men
where they take them you know 21 days
you know specifically just men but uh I
also yeah so that just started happening
recently but very much yeah now this is
a book for anyone it was officially
published in South Africa so it’s all in
all the bookstores in southern Africa
um but that might be a bit far for some
people it’s also on Amazon you can also
get a printed copy on Amazon and
um you can get the ebook and the
audiobook and you can also get it on on
my website leonardlow.com and your
workshops are out on your website as
well so if people want to get into
greater detail of what’s in the book or
learn more in a one-on-one or even
online correct they can go to your
website and set that up
so that’s exactly the website is a good
starting point from the website you can
go into all this different social media
places uh it’s got a bit on the book
it’s testimonials you know or uh on the
book and on online courses
and from there you can navigate and
there’s also a lot of free stuff there’s
a lot of Articles I’ve written I love
writing it’s a few quite a few
interviews on my YouTube channel they
um yeah so it’s at Leonard loud
l-e-n-e-r-d-l-o-u-w.com linetload.com
and folks we most certainly will have
that in the description below and we’ll
pop that up here right now for people to
take a look at if you happen to have a
pen in your hand but don’t worry about
it everything’s down in the description
Leonard Lowe it’s been a pleasure
talking to you today it’s very
refreshing to know that there are men
with your experience out there helping
people and young men specifically today
when they definitely need it thank you
for coming out of the boulder Zone
thanks Marco I really loved our chat and
look forward to to talking a lot more
much love brother let’s do that thank
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